tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.comments2013-04-24T01:59:42.515-07:00Pakistan.Politics.WomenVenushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01151613948289013147noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-57293956539724831322012-09-20T02:30:25.991-07:002012-09-20T02:30:25.991-07:00I really loved the way you portrayed the 'popu...I really loved the way you portrayed the 'popular imagination' people live in, by this example of westerners' view on Pakistan and Pakistanis.Fahad Ahmedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00149067650213975436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-91846789248566548442012-05-23T20:31:43.373-07:002012-05-23T20:31:43.373-07:00You didn't writer the flavour of PAAN:)
Where ...You didn't writer the flavour of PAAN:)<br />Where do you see F-16s on 7th september one day after the YOUM-e-Difah?PakistanUnitednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-85484906281868919482012-05-04T14:20:47.682-07:002012-05-04T14:20:47.682-07:00Assalamu Alaykum,
Bismillah,
I am glad that you ...Assalamu Alaykum,<br /><br />Bismillah,<br /><br />I am glad that you agree "men and women are not equal". I remember I had a "oops" moment when I had said this on facebook and you had raised some objections because I came across as a chauvinistic person (Maybe?, when in reality I am not). It is shame that some of your pakistani friends think that woman could do just anything. Equality is a very broad term. We should be talking about perspectives of equality. Equality has many dimensions. Men and women are equal in some perspectives while in others, they are not. Being not equal does not mean one is better than the other. Both statements do not equate. Both have their importance in their roles. Men and women are equal in terms of worship to Allah and in terms of rewards for their worship or punishments for evil deeds. Though, in Shariah, there will be difference in certain obligations, in general sense both are equal (with respect to worship).<br /><br />Islam came to being to remove the injustice of times of Jahiliyyah and remove oppression of women. However, today some aspects of Jahiliyyah come under the banner of "liberation" and on the other hand, some men still do injustice to their spouses (which is also characteristic of Jahiliyyah). When in reality, Allah forbids oppression and injustice. He commands us to give mutual rights and not oppress each other and fear Allah regarding it.<br /> <br />However, our opinion, or science or western opinion does not have any value before what Allah says and his messenger says. I would like to share a very good transcribed lecture from Shaikh Saalih Al-Fawzaan entitled: “Naseehah Lil-Mar’at-il-Muslimah” (Advice to the Muslim Woman). This is the best I have seen on this topic which discusses it in Light of Qur'an and Sunnah. It is not only advice to women but also to men (warning them against oppression) and also, advicing women regarding what their Lord has commanded them. It is important for us to learn what Islam says about how to live rather than going by our opinion or other "new" values. Because, some things we might perceive to be good for us, but in reality there is evil in it. The only All knowledgeable is God and his guidance is messenger (peace be upon him) and Qur'an. So, it is wise to follow them alone. This is true for both men and women. <br /><br />Anyway, here is the link to the article -http://abdurrahman.org/women/advice2Women-Fawzaan.pdf . <br /><br />Baarakallahu feekumErshadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-45316792895591944612012-04-25T07:34:40.384-07:002012-04-25T07:34:40.384-07:00I really admire you people and your thoughts. Conv...I really admire you people and your thoughts. Conventionally in Pakistan you can either be a rigid conservative person who believes:"Women are inferior to men and are meant to be in homes only" or a rigid moderated person who believes: "Women are literally equal to men in all respects and it can be proved only if Women do every thing men do etc".<br />However truth is rightly pointed out in this article that "Men are not equal to women and Women are not equal to men".<br />I used to say it slightly differently as "Men have their own role, temperament, strengths and weaknesses so do Women" and "In one situation Men may prove to be better suited for a task and in another Women may be more suited". However "This difference of roles does not make either inferior or superior, in fact they both complete and compliment each other".<br />I would like to share one more perception of mine which I remembered from the opening lines of this article: "The institution of marriage has been over protected in west as a result now we see people are reluctant to tie long term bonds with each other, this has not benefited women there rather it has harmed them".<br />Regards<br />WaqarWaqar Ahmedhttp://www.waqar-qureshi.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-26521319875482957752012-04-25T07:16:14.967-07:002012-04-25T07:16:14.967-07:00I wanted to write a similar piece since long just ...I wanted to write a similar piece since long just couldn't manage the time. I especially appreciate your passion being in a technical field. Engineers are usually not concerned about what is happening around them. Doctors used to be even worse in this regard. I am glad to see things are changing. Keep it up.Waqar Ahmedhttp://www.waqar-qureshi.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-62092775261072309062012-04-13T16:37:11.719-07:002012-04-13T16:37:11.719-07:00Sarwer Ahmed @sarwerahmed
I also criticize agains...Sarwer Ahmed @sarwerahmed<br /><br />I also criticize against PTI but not your above shown manner I criticize in other manner like I have been sending a msg to all our students that "Peeri mureedi Pakistan men istehsali nizam ka hisa he agar apko yaqeen na aye to ap Pakistan k villages ja kar dekh sakte hen jubke PTI k presidents hen he peeri faqeeri wale to kis trhan ye jadeed kahayalat ki turjumani karte hen or Pakistan ko age lekar jyengen imran khan jitne bhe sincere hon zaheen hon per hath to do he hen team to chahye jub team aisi hoge to? humari umeeden he hamare khawab hote hen aisa na ho k hamare khawab tabdeeli k lye reza reza hojyen ......... be aware dont trust except ourselve we are hardworker and change agent for our lives we shouldnt exploit ourselve for these types of slogans and peoples" Now u can easily analyse my critisim.<br /><br />ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-28168183212994438082012-04-11T02:33:41.343-07:002012-04-11T02:33:41.343-07:00Hi Irum,
I know which ayah you are talking about....Hi Irum,<br /><br />I know which ayah you are talking about. If you have time, please listen to the youtube link i have shared that would make the "light beating" clear. Its only symbolic and does not mean to physically harm. Just a sign of displeasure. The youtube link of Sheikh Hamza Yousuf will make things more clear for you.Venushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01151613948289013147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-53160529828807699452012-04-10T14:58:43.925-07:002012-04-10T14:58:43.925-07:00Hey
I agree with you on the point that our male-do...Hey<br />I agree with you on the point that our male-dominated environment would make sure such laws are not implemented and we selectively observe the sunnah that suits us best. I oppose domestic violence not from a religious respective but from basic rights and morals. <br />Living in the west and being a muslim, many times I have heard people say but it says in the Quran that its ok to beat your wife or kill infidels. So last year I made the effort again to read the Quran. I dont understand arabic so I read the english and urdu translation and it certainly was not pleasent to read a section where it was mentioned its ok to 'lightly' 'beat' your wife to discipline her. That was described as a third and 'extreme' measure if you could not discipline her by a)disucssing and explaining, b) giving some sort of warning and not talking for a few days. I doubt this is the exact translation from the Quran, I think it was more of an intrepertation or mention of the saying of the Prophet ( its difficult to make that distinction when you dont undersatdn the language Quran is in), but i was certainly shocked. I havent done much research on it and cant recall a specific context, but can certainly look up that surrah for you when I get back.<br /><br />Again aside from the religios aspect of it, raising hand on a woman is the most despicable act.<br /><br />IrumAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-69610530953299372042012-04-07T10:00:26.782-07:002012-04-07T10:00:26.782-07:00I think you have neither the read blogpost careful...I think you have neither the read blogpost carefully nor have you read the recent news. It has been reported by almost all newspapers that JUI-F and some members of PML-N are twisting this bill into some kind of western conspiracy. Try reading this account to get an idea that apparently our Maulana didnt even read the text of the bill himself before calling it unislamic. I have updated the post with the text of the bill itself. Kindly go through it. And also read this:<br /><br />http://tribune.com.pk/story/360458/analysis-i-had-never-seen-right-wingers-laugh-so-hard/ <br /><br />Secondly, I dont think you have really understood the point im trying to make. These people in the parliament are defaming Islam, not this post. If you read carefully I have stressed again and again in my article that this is not what Islam teaches. I have actually posted some links for clarification and tried to condemn this approach that some parliamentarians have taken. Defaming Islam is the last thing I have done here, so please atleast READ what i am writing before you jump to conclusions. Im surprised that you have not bothered to check that this action of yesterday by our parliament has already been highlighted internationally and this is causing grave misunderstandings about our religion. How can you not defend yourself against this propaganda? Atleast I, as a muslim, feel I have to protect Islam from this fake Mullahs.<br /><br />At the end of the day, it all comes down to one single point: In our society, we are just not comfortable with giving women their due share of respect. I quote here words of Fauzia Saeed who was present at the session:<br /><br />"The main issue seems to be, as one parliamentarian had said earlier, “Now we can’t even slap our wives any more! What kind of system do you want?” That seems to be the main problem, which usually takes the form of saying, “We disagree with the text” ".<br /><br />Hope you see this in a positive light.Venushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01151613948289013147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-71182938023624866382012-04-07T07:48:19.710-07:002012-04-07T07:48:19.710-07:00I must repeat (since I have the experience that pe...I must repeat (since I have the experience that people often miss the most important points) that JUI-F may indeed be wrong. My point is that women's issues are done to death for the sake of media attention. We should recognize that by now and research issues thoroughly before joining the world in its Islam-bashing spree.<br /><br />"But I'm not defaming Islam!". Yes you are sister, every time a Muslim apologizes to the world about the "Islamic extremists" instead of cleanly pointing out exactly what went wrong (which is MOSTLY foreign elements rather than local), they DO defame Islam. Why didn't we question what un-Islamic (and by extension, anti-women) elements are included in the clauses of this bill?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-42782699231819289902012-04-07T07:41:57.749-07:002012-04-07T07:41:57.749-07:00I have seen so many people ranting about this. It ...I have seen so many people ranting about this. It may be true that the JUI-F is not making the wisest moves.<br /><br />My question to everyone who jumps at headlines exactly as they are designed to make us jump is this: what do you know of the bill? I've been looking for it, could you please provide a link so we can actually SEE the bill before we jump at JUI-F? In this world where Islam is forever on trial, where hundreds of thousands of dollars are poured into campaigns to brainwash the masses against Islam (which happens to be a crime to the entire world, Muslim or non-Muslim - because it robs all of humanity from the most beautiful solutions to all of its problems) - can we not think twice before joining in the storm and portraying Hell about Islam? Do not say that JUI-F "isn't" Islam, the Taliban "aren't representing Islam", "we are *moderate* Muslims"... it doesn't help. Really. Because while it clears your name for yourself, it still implies that *Islam has a problem*, or that some "Muslims" are extremists. (Funny these extremists barely existed before 911). And it still justifies the hundreds of thousands of innocent practicing Muslims who are being banned, tortured, murdered and imprisoned around the world.<br /><br />The solution is to KNOW what we're talking about, and NOT point fingers at our own brethren (EVEN IF THEY'RE WRONG) unless we have a clue what's going on. If they are wrong - we should strive to make amends locally, while telling the international community that we're sorting it out, thank you very much. <br /><br />There's a reason it's called "manufacturing consent" via the media. I'm amazed at how quick we are to conclude that the JUI-F are *NOT* anti women's rights and are *NOT* anti-domestic violence, without even knowing what CLAUSES they are objecting to? <br /><br />What evidence do you have that their objections aren't VALID and that the LONG TERM effects of the bill aren't *MORE* detrimental to the welfare of women than the domestic violence aspect that's being plastered all over the place to grab our attention?<br /><br />If it is indeed true (and I believe it is likely) that the JUI-F have valid concerns with certain clauses (that the majority of us don't care enough about women to have read), then I have something to say. To those who are truly concerned about women's rights: Please recognize that the media taps on your emotions and uses them against Woman, that Woman is being USED as an object (and you are unwittingly falling for the trap) to perpetrate more crime against her. <br /><br />IF indeed the long term effects of the clauses that the JUI-F are ACTUALLY protesting against (funny how we paint it like they're against the entire bill) are not serious, or if the those clauses aren't seriously distorting the Divine Laws of freedom and security that the Most Merciful alone grants women, then I will happily and readily take back my words.<br /><br />But I refuse to do so without having read the bill myself.<br /><br />And by the way - I am not pro JUI-F or anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-64081646791670567802012-03-16T12:27:39.311-07:002012-03-16T12:27:39.311-07:00PTI Fata: Thank you for sharing the post.
Rest: th...PTI Fata: Thank you for sharing the post.<br />Rest: thank you for your comments. The post was intended to be in good humor but I also wanted to share the uncalled bashing that PTI suffers.Venushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01151613948289013147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-36883825679471516902012-03-16T10:37:07.012-07:002012-03-16T10:37:07.012-07:00Liberal fascist is these word for these jokers.......Liberal fascist is these word for these jokers.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-79643708594160486052012-03-16T06:28:40.095-07:002012-03-16T06:28:40.095-07:00Great narration Sana. Copying it to our PTI-FATA w...Great narration Sana. Copying it to our PTI-FATA webpage too.Nomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17812556816486861383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-15254678909355692732012-03-16T04:22:46.951-07:002012-03-16T04:22:46.951-07:00Wish Kaptaan reads this brilliant piece. thumbs up...Wish Kaptaan reads this brilliant piece. thumbs up sana!Sohaib Irshadhttp://www.rhythmofunity.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-45116442539310610312012-03-15T17:30:31.479-07:002012-03-15T17:30:31.479-07:00Nice one!Nice one!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-79836477557000530262012-03-15T11:14:08.600-07:002012-03-15T11:14:08.600-07:00Humor can't hide the facts ma'am :PHumor can't hide the facts ma'am :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-74565862182048681302012-01-21T14:25:59.251-08:002012-01-21T14:25:59.251-08:00This lady Joana(ong)san is amazing. She should be ...This lady Joana(ong)san is amazing. She should be applauded for her brave step. As i grown up reading novels of Jean P.sasson And Khaled Husseini about the brave ladies ,,,, i found Joana to be one a character that is living inspiration for everyone. As been very close to joana ,,, she had beared great hardships in life and serious circumstances but she fought with every hardship and difficulties with her beautiful smile. Her Inclination towards PTI was not strange,,, as she is a lady of character and straight path,,,when she came to know about the agenda of PTI and Imran Khan ,she didnt hesitate to join PTI and she is not proud for all of us, Her recent speech in Italy is a great piece of admiration,,, I recommend all PTI lovers to hear or read that speech. I will tell joana to post again that speech on her facebook profile. Being a lady she has had made a firm status in honourables of PTI. May her live long and God bless her.<br /> Dr.Yasir BangashDr.Yasir Bangashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15317844249128057928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-2742998380775828402012-01-05T20:34:35.147-08:002012-01-05T20:34:35.147-08:00You are a more shrewd writer than i had thought!
...You are a more shrewd writer than i had thought!<br /><br />--from an 'in-equal' of ursMahmood Sadiqhttp://www.facebook.com/mahmoodsadiqnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-35800914568955020392012-01-05T12:26:10.646-08:002012-01-05T12:26:10.646-08:00I came around this via Afshan's tweeter. Cool ...I came around this via Afshan's tweeter. Cool essay. I'm +1 on G+. hope is ok. <br /><br />AnaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17337273938073564315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-31221130075022453282011-12-21T10:48:16.234-08:002011-12-21T10:48:16.234-08:00I agree with Aisha.
Same thing happened with me. S...I agree with Aisha.<br />Same thing happened with me. Same questions were raised in my mind and I got same answer from JOANA SAN. I really appreciate her thoughts and work for Pakistan. I have talked with her many times and I think that She has understood the main complexities of Pakistani Politics.<br />I am planning a radio talk show about Women of Pakistan and it will be great honor and pleasure for me to have Joana on my radio Show.<br />Ishtiaq Qureshi<br />Station Manager <br />Radio Voice of Kashmir Netowrk<br />FM 105.4 Muzaffarabad, FM 105.6 Bagh and FM 105.8 Rawalakot, Azad Kashmir PakistanAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14824228792715730069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-12231331066059536642011-12-13T12:38:26.007-08:002011-12-13T12:38:26.007-08:00I still remember a voice going deep into the winte...I still remember a voice going deep into the winter nights..... "garam aanday";<br />enjoyed itsohail afzalhttp://www.facebook.com/Sohailafzal177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-1820783017380278862011-12-13T06:53:27.293-08:002011-12-13T06:53:27.293-08:00I Strongly extend my entire Support, Tooth and Nai...I Strongly extend my entire Support, Tooth and Nail. Sultan Sheheryar Khan Marwat, Advocate Supreme Court of Pakistan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-44521382474375258322011-12-12T05:22:56.294-08:002011-12-12T05:22:56.294-08:00I read this blog about Mrs. Joana Ong and I confes...I read this blog about Mrs. Joana Ong and I confess that I'm not surprised at all. I know her since long time and I perfectly know her capabilities and her powerful approach and her sincere passion to the projects she supports.<br />For me, her support it's the most trustworthy certification on the goodnes of this project and sure, the first step to success.<br />I'm with U Joana.<br />Keep supporting her, because, she'll never let u down.<br />Good Luck.<br />Eugenio ZappalàAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5454435608305916371.post-12186085877514825232011-12-10T13:56:00.031-08:002011-12-10T13:56:00.031-08:00This is a great article on perceptions coming from...This is a great article on perceptions coming from a lady that is non pakistani.It is wonderful, that someone cares and wishes to make it clear that we are not alone in this struggle for equality and peace. We welcome you dear Ms.Joana Ong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com